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Default  04.20.03, 13:09:40
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Aerosoul: It's obvious you're just a bitter ex-staffer, so I'll excuse your ******* behavior. And for God's sake stop going "LOL" and "hahaha" because you're just furthering everyone's view of you which is a stupid, overbearing, condescending *******.
Again with the personal attacks? Please. I'm not bitter, I'm just saying that this rebellion is stupid. If I disagree with something and I disagree vehemently all of a sudden I'm a condescending *******? You've got to be kidding me! My "LOL"s and my "hahaha"s are only an emphasis on how I think this is funny.

As for Rei, sure staff politics come into play. In fact, you haven't even been here long enough to consideer Rei's position here. I think it's silly to nitpick on her quick reinstatement. She deserves it, and she's probably contributed more in a year than most ever will. Don't act like you don't know it either.

I'm not trying to be an *******, but Gav -- take a step back and look at this whole thing. You're judging my character based on this website that I reckon won't even be here for more than a few years. You also make it sound like I'm "bitter" to be an ex-staffer! Jesus, I don't need to be bitter, I act like a mod regardless of what position I am! xD

No more personal attacks please. All I'm saying is that this thread sucks my left kahoney.
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Default  04.20.03, 13:12:29
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I don't have time to go through all the posts but I've seen enough.

First of all, this isn't targeting you Naraku so don't get worked up about it, Your not the only admin as you said.
2. Thats fine that you tell us you do something before you do it, but thats not the point, we want you to do stuff we want also.
3. @ Everyone who said this isn't neccessary your wrong. I'm tired of making thread after thread of idea/proposal/suggestion/ectect in the staff lounge that gets completly ignored, even if most staffers agree with it, ****ing, nothing, happens. This is completly neccesary, I mean look? Something is at least happening.

I got to go I'll comment more later.
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Default  04.20.03, 13:17:40
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Hmm. I'm not aware of any posts made in the staff lounge so I can't comment on that one. That's also another reason why you can't post this thread here. Members would just reply without any knowledge of the situation. BTW, Galad, that is an appropriate response: no personal attacks, no personal bias, clarification of literal intent, that's what you need. The way you respond you sound like a little schoolgirl crying because Butch the Bully kicked dirt in her eyes. xD No offense, just kidding around, lol.
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Default  04.20.03, 13:21:14
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...first of to state for the record i am not a staff...
these are views from a members perspective that's been
here for quite a while (longer then some of the satff members)

I understand that this topic has been on the minds of some staffers for quite a while and they want some improvement.
That is valid in itself. I also understand that they were just using a few names to use as examples to further get they're point across. Yet let said before many of times. Why is this out for the public to see.

If this was truely something that was between staffers, why isn't it in the staffer forums. It's a problem that has to be figured out between that community not the the regular members. By doing so you have people that want to jump on a banndwagon to say "i agree with so and so" and " your right" when in truth most (and you al know this) have the slightest clue what the hell they are speaking about.

to me this just seem as aero mentioned as propaganda of a sort to get some attention to problems that need to be solved elsewhere. To me it's as if the staff is falling a part and i sure as hell don't want to see that. It brings doubt to the whole staff instead of a selected few.

*shakes head* guess i'm done with my lil 1 cent *sighs*
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Default  04.20.03, 13:26:51
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This my two cents, raw and uncut. I won't apologize for anything said here.

Some of you just plain disgust me.

Lay of Phyx, he's just the messenger for a group of people. If Temiko had been giving this anouncement you'd be picking on her. Anyway...
We are not targeting Phyx in general; we are not actually targeting anyone. We are just proving that this thread is utter crap, and it is rather funny. In fact, it is damn funny. If you think we are targeting your precious Phyx -- go back and study the thread again.

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@ Aerosoul: It's obvious you're just a bitter ex-staffer, so I'll excuse your ******* behavior. And for God's sake stop going "LOL" and "hahaha" because you're just furthering everyone's view of you which is a stupid, overbearing, condescending *******.
Ha-ha! That was the funniest thing I have ever heard you produce, and it was not meant to be funny at all. He is, in no way, shape or form, bitter. In fact, you are the bitter one Gavin, I have seen it all too often with you, it is not a new thing. Besides, you cannot stop him from saying LOL or HA-HA because you do not own him, it is his choice, so back off, let him breathe air that does not have your perfume in it.

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@ Holy Storm: Quit draggin Maester R.'s name through the mud. He gave you a warning, none of the staff protested it, so therefore it is valid. Quit *****ing, 'cause that's all you're doing.
He is entitled to his opinion; you cannot strip that from him. Quit acting like a supreme god of FFR, when you are nothing more than a simple human being, just like the rest of us. Moreover, oh no, what is this...he is *****ing is he? Wow, you do not look hypocritical, nope, not at all.

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Gadwinus needs to be removed as I've stated time and time again and the majority of staff have agreed upon it, so let's see an admin take action, eh?
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I too disagree with Rei's immediate re-position as an econ. officer, I said so the first day it happened, in staff that is *shrug*. She is my very good friend, but this is forum politics... it is in no way meant to hurt her or anyone else.
You are far too new at the moderation Gavin, and you have no been around enough to see the pure dedication she has shown. Really, you do not have a say in the matter, so sit down and be quiet -- let the big boys discuss her position instead.

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Razor's Kiss_ is just bleh. He barely comes here and doesn't do his job well (in my opinion) well in the first place. So my vote is yes to kick his arse off staff. People need to stop taking advantage of their staff positions as some sort of figure head, and not an actual job.
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If I had been on the net last night I would be part of this position, but as it is, I am posting only my opinion and it doesn't reflect the staff as a whole.
Aha...nice.
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Default  04.20.03, 13:27:32
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...first of to state for the record i am not a staff...
these are views from a members perspective that's been
here for quite a while (longer then some of the satff members)

I understand that this topic has been on the minds of some staffers for quite a while and they want some improvement.
That is valid in itself. I also understand that they were just using a few names to use as examples to further get they're point across. Yet let said before many of times. Why is this out for the public to see.

If this was truely something that was between staffers, why isn't it in the staffer forums. It's a problem that has to be figured out between that community not the the regular members. By doing so you have people that want to jump on a banndwagon to say "i agree with so and so" and " your right" when in truth most (and you al know this) have the slightest clue what the hell they are speaking about.

to me this just seem as aero mentioned as propaganda of a sort to get some attention to problems that need to be solved elsewhere. To me it's as if the staff is falling a part and i sure as hell don't want to see that. It brings doubt to the whole staff instead of a selected few.

*shakes head* guess i'm done with my lil 1 cent *sighs*
Another point well stated. This doesn't belong here: period. Some people may misunderstand, some people may judge other people wrongly, and some people might just flame other people. xD

Keep in mind we're trying to maintain a sense of peace as well as some dignity, so keep this in the Staff Section.
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Default  04.20.03, 13:30:15
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Probably not my business, but other non-staffers have commented, so I'll throw in my piece.

What concerns me is simple: What I'm seeing here is hard-coding of rules. That, in my experience, is very dangerous...It's one of the things that made me resign from *counts on fingers* five or six mod positions (mind, that was back in the day when ezBoard didn't suck a mountain of ass the size of the
Death Star, so you're free to believe that things have changed so much since then that my experience is totally invalid)

Once you codify rules, you bind your own hands. The one administrator I respect more than any other (as an admin, apart from as a person) taught me that human judgment is better than any rule can ever be, because situations will change. When Tychoides sees something that needs to be done, he just does it. It's sort of a Zen way to run a message board. To hell with any precedents and rules, if it needs to be done, do it. If you've got a ****nut messing up the board, ban the bastard. If a contributing member accidentally borks something up once, they shouldn't be banned because of some obscure rule that was made six years ago and never repealed even though it's redundant.

The role of staff, IMO, should be to apply their own judgment to each case as it arises, not to set rules that attempt to anticipate future problems and (usually) wind up causing them.

*shrugs* I might just be full of ****, too, I'll admit that. Although I've been on staff on dozens of boards, I've not exactly been a model staffer anywhere. I like to think, though, that someone who's messed up as much as I have has maybe learned something from it.

Good luck with whatever you all decide to do, in the end.
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Default  04.20.03, 13:34:14
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Just for your information you all, don't forget to read towards the end of page three of this thread. Thank you.
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Default  04.20.03, 13:37:49
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Blargasm...

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We are not targeting Phyx in general; we are not actually targeting anyone. We are just proving that this thread is utter crap, and it is rather funny.
First of all, this thread isn't utter crap. Changes are needed and this just might be the thread that could put things in motion.

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In fact, you are the bitter one Gavin, I have seen it all too often with you, it is not a new thing. Besides, you cannot stop him from saying LOL or HA-HA because you do not own him, it is his choice, so back off, let him breathe air that does not have your perfume in it.
1) I have nothing to be bitter about. o_O

2) No man I know, let alone myself, would wear perfume. :P

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