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Default  06.06.03, 17:37:32
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...they say "Dreaming of Zion awake" and "can't stop sleeping awake" what more do you need? lol. by saying "Dreaming of Zion" they supports the theory in that, if you are dreaming of Zion, then it's got to be a matrix...it's the same general idea of The Matrix in that you dream out your life. and "can't stop sleeping awake" implies the same thing. that everyone believes that they have "awoken" but really haven't and they are still dreaming...not truely free
That's really good evidence and I would go with that as supporting the whole Zion=Matrix theory except........The Wachowski Bros are really secretive about the plot lines in the movies. For example, when they sent in Enter The Matrix to Sony for approval, they removed all the movie scenes so as to not give away any of the story. I seriously doubt that they would tell P.O.D. what was going to happen in Revolutions just so they could put it into their song. But good evidence anyways.
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Default  06.06.03, 17:57:43
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What if all, Zion and The Matrix, is just a game....you know like .Hack or somethin. It had me guessing for a while about this.
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Default  06.06.03, 18:39:17
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man, I would be pretty pissed if it was all a game or all a dream. Like at the very end of the last one, Neo wakes up in his bed and realizes he just had a weird ass dream. I think I would be super-douper pissed off.
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Default  06.06.03, 19:02:18
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there was someone else on ShinraOnline who had suggested that as well. that would be very interesting.

I think that the Oracle is trying to keep Neo's attention inside The Matrix as well.

come to think of it, Neo had no choice...in the end with the architecht. the screens showed all the possible outcomes of his reaction, so the machines had already calculated it. they were ready to take the measures necessary...so i mean if they already knew, what choice did he have in the first place? (which would go with the Zion=Matrix theory as well in that he is still being controlled like everyone else) The Oracle even says "you've already made your decision, now you must understand it" and i know what it means, in that his number one priority is Trinity...but if you think about it...maybe it's fate after all...maybe it was his destiny to be different. and he HAD to chose that door.

i wonder what the other Ones were called. cause you know, you flip around the letters in Neo and you have One *nods*
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Default  06.06.03, 19:23:03
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yeah but to a certain extent.. neo knows "how" to do all that kung-fu.. and operations for helicopters in real life and ****.. right.. I mean that's not physically impossible in real life.. but he learned it.

I don't know.. it's starting to get way too complicated so I will watch it agaim.. and again.. until I get some answers... ECCENTRICHOCOBO.. you now have no chance in beating me in the # of times I watch Matrix reload... MUUhahahaha...muahahaha*cough* eeeeeek.
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Default  06.06.03, 19:35:09
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I think I'll beat you in the # of times seen in a short amount of time.

4 times in 3 days. That's right I saw it twice in one day. And I plan on seeing it at IMAX next Friday when it starts in my area. And at the regular theaters too.
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Default  06.06.03, 19:45:09
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I've already seen it about 7 times.. but yeah.. It was a joke.. don't expect me to actually live up to my word.. I don't have the time to even watch the movie more than once a day.. and that's if I'm home..
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Default  06.06.03, 20:08:09
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no never!!! I WILL PRIVAIL!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAaaaaaaa....*turns into a bat and flies away*

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yeah but to a certain extent.. neo knows "how" to do all that kung-fu.. and operations for helicopters in real life and ****.. right.. I mean that's not physically impossible in real life.. but he learned it.
yeah he learned how to do all that stuff...but that's because he can bend the rules of the matrix...it's information inputted into his brain to aid him in The Matrix. I don't think he can actually do any of it in Zion without believing.

i have another question...why is it that when they dream (in the matrix) they look exactly how the do in Zion? I mean they were dreaming of the way they looked in The Matrix before they were unplugged. how can they possibly know what they look like if they've never seen themseleves?

ooo and i just wanted to get it across incase anyone didn't pick this up...Kid's Story, in the Animatrix is about the kid in Zion who keeps saying that Neo saved him...and Neo says, "you saved yourself" he also says it at the end of that animatrix.
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Default  06.06.03, 23:20:22
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I guess that's why they kept calling him Kid
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