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Default  06.13.06, 22:11:16
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You can make the same claim about most movies these days, though. And music. I think the last few generation have lacked artistic qualities all together.
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No, I'm positive that there are some artistic gems out there. But it's hard to argue that most games aren't simply entertaining.
90% of games are ****, but then, 90% of everything is ****. See Sturgeon's Law.
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Default  06.13.06, 22:15:06
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You can make the same claim about most movies these days, though. And music. I think this generation lacks artistic qualities all together.
True, but we can trust David Lynch and the independant film community to be vaguely artstic.
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90% of games are ****, but then, 90% of everything is ****. See Sturgeon's Law.
Meh, crap and entertainment are two different things. Something that entertains me isn't crap.

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On one level, I suppose. I was referring to an intellectual level specifically though
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True, but we can trust David Lynch and the independant film community to be vaguely artstic.
And we can usually trust bands under independant music labels not to suck as hard as major label bands. And we can usually trust smaller game companies to make decent games.

The truth is quite simple. Those with the least money strive to do their best, so they can squeeze a full more cents to pay their rent. And those already loaded just do enough to stay in the business.
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And we can usually trust bands under independant music labels not to suck as hard as major label bands. And we can usually trust smaller game companies to make decent games.
Not sucking != art.

DooM didn't suck, but it sure aint art.

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Not sucking != art.
I know, but my point still remains, no matter matter which words I choose to use to explain it.

People are only as artistic as they are desperate.
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I know, but my point still remains, no matter matter which words I choose to use to explain it.

People are only as artistic as they are desperate.
I still don't buy that we have to go through some level of pain to create art, but, yes, I see your point.
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I still don't buy that we have to go through some level of pain to create art, but, yes, I see your point.
No, I don't buy that either. Most people are capable of being artistic in some way. But those that are in need or have gone through some turmoil