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The Mako Refineries
08.09.02, 08:56:19
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I am here to ask you of one question, and that question being “ Were the Mako Refineries doing any damage?”
As far as my awareness goes, I am lead to believe that AVALANCHE’s sole goal, was to kill off all of the reactors, and the reason being to save the planet. Now, my part of the argument is, was the refining of the Lifestream doing any harm in the long run?? Yes, perhaps at the time it seemed as though this was damaging the Lifstream, but in the long run I beg to differ.
I would also would like to be informed, on where AVALANCHE got their information regarding the Mako Reactors… and also how they got ‘that’ information, telling them that the Refinery was damaging the Planet.
I have made assumptions, these of which are: AVALANCHE were mislead and were fighting for a false cause. Think about it…
Later on in the game, we are lead to believe that (through Bugenhagen’s words) after a lifeform has died, it’s energy is brought upon the Lifestream and is then used to support new living things that are to be born, either that or there is a sense of reincarnation. Bugenhagen tells us of the cycle that the Planet is apart of, and of how if all this energy was sucked up, the planet would die and literally crumble to pieces. Bugenhagen was referring to the refinery of Mako and if it were to continue Shinra Inc. would take all the energy away from the planet.
This is where I believe the entire AVALANCHE crew and those consisting of Cloud’s group and also Bugenhagen the great himself, were not informed (perhaps Cloud was). I don’t believe that the entire gang, knew of what the Shinra were doing, and what they were using mako for. As far as I was aware, Shinra ONLY used Mako for the mere purpose of Hojo’s experiments, and for the creation of his monsters. As you are all aware, the creation of Hojo’s creatures consist of condensing mako to a further state and merging that with Jenova Cells. If that is and I do believe is the case, then how exactly was Shinra using up Mako energy and using it in such a way that the Mako would not be able to be returned.
What I am saying, is that these creatures being produced by Hojo are just like any other lifeforce only consisting of more Mako than required… and when they die, this energy will return to the Lifestream. So basically it is just a cycle. And the planet’s health remains the same.
But only with time.
Now, say if Shinra were actually damaging the Planet, I would assume that the Planet would have released the weapons far before AVALANCHE would have to make a move.
And as you saw, the planet was aware that Sephiroth had the Black Materia and was summoning Meteor, and after witnessing this the Planet release it’s fury in the form of Weapons. So if the Planet was in trouble then the Planet would have let loose long before.
You say, that I am implying that Shinra only use Mako for the creation of Hojo’s minions, and then you are wrong. I admit that Shinra did use Mako for the firing of the Sister Ray, in the form of Mako Shells, BUT that’s not why AVALANCHE attacked Shinra in the first place… they were lead to believe that what Shinra was doing was damaging the Planet, far before the use of the Sister ray. |
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| you make a good point but I disagree. The weapons only are released if the planet was in major trouble, like meteor. but the planet was slowly, but surely losing it's lifeforce. I think the weapons would only be released if the planet were in a major Crisis. of course Mako being sucked from the earth would be a mojor Crisis, but it could take a very long time before the Mako reactors posed more of a threat. you really are mostly correct, I do believe AVALANCHE could figure out that the mako energy being sucked out of the planet was damaging it. It's kinda like how our earth is losing oil, we know that, as we suck more oil earth loses part of itself. as for the cycle of people dying and returning to the planet, I think more life force is loss than gained. Good point though. |
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Hmm good point Nanaki. However, Shinra also used Mako for their everyday usage- sort of like electricity. If used in this way, wouldn't the power not get returned to the Planet since it is being used up and not a part of the standard "recycle" process? I agree with the bit of recycling- in the end the energy will return to the planet, thus Avalanche really didn't have to exist.
BTW Lol I just thought of something funny- try explaining this to Barret 
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| no, a living thing must die for any lifeforce to be returned. If you use mako, it does not return to the planet. |
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As far as I was aware, Shinra ONLY used Mako for the mere purpose of Hojo’s experiments, and for the creation of his monsters.
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Wrong. Shinra condensed Mako to produce materia. They then used huge materia gathered from their REACTORS to create the "Ultimate" weapon, like Scarlet said in Gongaga. And if you remember correctly, Materia has the Ancient's wisdom in them. If Shinra kept producing materia, it would suck out the wisdom from the lifestream and the "life" out of the lifestream, because Materia does not return to the planet. |
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| hmmm, didn't think of that |
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| I would of thatught that at the rate of explotion from shinra, the life stream would have run out quite quickly, which is why avalanche was out, because they new it would ruin the planet.. |
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| Ahh yes, materia... that would be something that cannot return to the planet. |
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CrossNCloud is correct. The Shinra reactors drain the planet's spirit energy. As a result, the reactors produce condensed spirit energy in a new form, called Materia. And the spirit energy within all materias cannot return to the planet because of it's condensed form. Shinra is destroying the planet this way, because when there's no spirit energy left in the planet, it will DIE. AVALANCHE is trying to prevent this from happening. This is explained by Bugenhagen and Sephiroth (on the way to the Nibelheim reactor).
No offense Nanaki, but I completely disagree with you on this one. |
Last edited by zenzai : 08.11.02 at 14:14:13.
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