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FF7's Ending... (*spoiler*)
05.08.02, 19:39:41
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Hey, all... I'm kinda new here so I don't know if this topic has been addressed before. Can anyone explain what really happened. After beating the game several hundred times (okay, maybe like thirty-something) and watching the ending, I still don't get what happens... except for the fact that Red XIII lives to have kids (or grandkids). I mean, the story was so good, but that ending just left me uncomfortable. My problems are:
1.) Did Holy wipe out all the humans?
2.) How and why did the Lifestream come out and stop Meteor?
3.) What happened to Midgar? (And Reeve/Cait Sith) It was getting destroyed but semed semi-intact in the final scene 500 years later...
4.) How did Red XIII get kids since he was the last of his tribe?
I know you probably can't give any in-game proof on what happened, but I'd like to hear different theories from people. Thanks! |
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*Spoilers Ahead*
There are many different theories that people have about the ending of Final Fantasy VII. In fact, the ending is so vague, that no adequate explaination has ever been proven, and even Squaresoft themselves won't explain it to us fans. I'm sure it's meant to be like that, so that we can theorise and make our own conclusions. Square's plan has worked hasn't it? Well, considering we're still talking about this game over 4 years after it's release, I'd say their tactics have worked.
Here are but a few of the explanations:
1) Holy Wiped out all the humans, but left the animals, including Red XIII. Well, that's quite hard to believe for numerous reasons. First of all, why didn't it wipe out the animals? If the planet thought it was in danger, why didn't it just destroy all life on the surface? The most conclusive reason that disproves this theory though is the fact that you can hear the laughter of children in the ending credits, just after the movie with Red and his cubs. The laughter can only be heard in the PSX version, due to the fact that the PC version uses Midi only. If there are children laughing, then that must mean that some human life has survived the holy, and that probably meant Cloud and friends.
2) The lifestream came out because Aeris prayed for it. The whole point of Aeris going to the City of the Ancients to sacrifice herself was to make sure that holy heard her prayer - and the only place that she could pray to holy was on the altar, I presume. Remember that the planet would protect itself, and if it sensed great danger, it would unleash it's fury - and that consisted of the weapons, holy and lifestream/mako energy.
3) Midgar was still intact, but it looked to be in ruins. After the meteor attack, I presume that people continued to live normal lives, without the aid of mako energy. I mean, if they had started mining the spirit of dead people out of the ground again, the planet would have probably released the weapons. xD
4) A commonly asked question, with an easy answer. When talking to Red, Bugenhagen tells him that: "It's a wide world and you must go out and see it... You may even find your life's mate. You never know." Bugen here is hinting that there may be others of Red's race that he hasn't found yet. Well, the world map was rather big, wasn't it?
There are many more theories about the ending, some of which I will post again later when I have some time.
I hope this post has been informative. |
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Re: FF7's Ending... (*spoiler*)
05.08.02, 23:56:52
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Originally posted by Yoshi7cw3
1.) Did Holy wipe out all the humans?
2.) How and why did the Lifestream come out and stop Meteor?
3.) What happened to Midgar? (And Reeve/Cait Sith) It was getting destroyed but semed semi-intact in the final scene 500 years later...
4.) How did Red XIII get kids since he was the last of his tribe?
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1. No one will ever know if Holy wiped out all the humans. Bugenhagen said that Holy would destroy any threat to the planet. Humans at that time were a threat to the planet, but of course they did not realize this. Aeris on the other hand summoned holy to save the planet, but was interrupted in her prayer and thus holy wouldn't have it's full effect. As Red XIII claimed "Holy has failed."
2. The lifestream broke out of the surface of the planet. In the end it shows Aeris' face. So that lead *me* to believe that Aeris rallied all the spirits in the lifestream that had not reincarnated to break free and attack the meteor since Holy failed. so Aeris and her "troups" (the lifestream) attacked the meteor.
3. Obviously midgar wasn't completely destroyed. As Reeve said he moved everyone to the slums. In the ending sequence it shows midgar covered in vines, but the plates were still standing. Who's to say some people survived and left? Once again we don't know if holy killed all the humans. But it's for sure that Midgar was abandoned. In my opinion Midgar was symbolic of sins...greed...and power. And thus the humans moved on.
4. Red XIII probably went off on his own being the not-so-social guy and ran into the other last surviving female of his race. ^_^ lol. |
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Re: FF7's Ending... (*spoiler*)
05.09.02, 02:21:54
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Eraphs Final-Fantasy-VII-End Theorem
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1.) Did Holy wipe out all the humans?
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Nobody knows, but I'd assume it didn't. It wasn't technically holy, it was lifestream, which is made up of the spirits of every living thing on the planet, from humans to clovers, from whales to bacteria. If all the humans died out, it wouldn't make sense if all the otehr species lived on, so I think humans did live.
How and why did the Lifestream come out and stop Meteor?[/quote]
As Rainecloud said, Aeris helped it. She was an ancient, she could speak to the planet (the collective lifestream), working with it as a part of it, gathering all the souls of the planet to take on this giant method, which, evidently, worked.
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3.) What happened to Midgar? (And Reeve/Cait Sith) It was getting destroyed but semed semi-intact in the final scene 500 years later...
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I can't imagine anyone having lived after what happened, but it was completely wrecked. 500 years later it is still a wreck, an abandoned monument of mankinds achievement. Not totally destroyed, but made useless.
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4.) How did Red XIII get kids since he was the last of his tribe?
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Bugenhagen and everyone else simply assumed that Red XIII was the last of his race. Humans once thought hamsters were extinct - fact. Now look; hamsters in millions of homes around the world, a common rodent now. I guess teh same thing happened with Nanaki, he found someone during his 500 years of searching. Or he was a hermaphrodite 
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I know you probably can't give any in-game proof on what happened, but I'd like to hear different theories from people. Thanks!
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No, I don't have any proof, I've discussed this with other forum types for a long time now, and it is quite enjoyable
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Great job on explaining it, Eraph. I couldn't have said it better myself...
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Bugenhagen and everyone else simply assumed that Red XIII was the last of his race. Humans once thought hamsters were extinct - fact. Now look; hamsters in millions of homes around the world, a common rodent now. I guess teh same thing happened with Nanaki, he found someone during his 500 years of searching. Or he was a hermaphrodite
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Also rabbits! *wink wink* If that didn't give it away to ya'll, I changed my screen name from Legolas to Bun Bun, the evil mini-lop rabbit. Hee hee! Now back to Eraph's theory...IMO MAYBE. It's not certain, and that's one of the great things of FF7. It was released what, 4-5 years ago? and people are STILL debating on the ending, as well as the plot, cause there are some inconsistencies there too. Anyways, you did a great job Eraph. |
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Heh! Bun Bun... What randomness! Now that you've changed your name, can you change it any time, or is it just a one off thing where you have to pay every time?
Eraph |
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| Hey thanks guys!! Yeah, I've read lotsa stuff on this topic, but mostly everyone thinks the humans did die out. And that the laughing at the end (with Red XIII and his kids) was the "cry of the planet"... |
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Bah, the humans definitely weren't wiped out. I mean, what is the significance of the laughter? I can't believe that some people still think that holy simply killed everyone for the good of the planet. If holy had killed everyone, who would have looked after the planet by watering the flowers and planting new ones, etc?
*Ahem* I'm expressing my opinion too strongly again. |
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well, there were plants on this planet long before humans came along... *big grin* but I agree with you though.
the message of FFVII is a great one though. humans took one step to many away from natural evolution, natural harmony, thus the planet had to do something about it to safe itself, and all its other life forms. something for all to think about... *g* peace... |
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