Final Fantasy Republic Forums  
 Home | Forums | Register | FAQ | Members List | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read
     
    
        
     
 
Final Fantasy Republic Forums  
Username:

Password:
CAPTCHA:
  
        
Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  Blitzballer
 
 
Blitzballer's Avatar
Cool as Ice
 
Posts: 9,045
 
Reg: Jun 13 2002
 
ID: 1174
 
RP: 298
 
WE10, KH2, Suikoden 5
LOTR Trilogy
FHM...of course
PS2
     
 
Default  Slavery
09.10.02, 04:04:01
  Post #1 (permalink)
 
     

I heard in a news report about how the decendents of Black Slaves are petitioning for compensation against variuos companies around the world..but esp in the USA......What are peoples thoughts on this...?
I see the point they are trying to raise...but is it valid to lodge this compensation claim now..? Years after the event..? But then again their grandfathers etc couldnt complain then...could they..? The Black Slaves were treated appalingly as historical eveidence suggests.....A grievious injustice was done upon the Slaves and truthfully they had no choice in the matter....Its a fact that the colour of their skin determined their fate in that age....they had no reward......is it right though that their descendents may profit from the work of their forefathers...?
______________________________________




Quote:
Quoth Albel Nox:
Imho? it's emo, douche.So if you're going to call me emo do it right.not imao, ihmo, or imo, but EMO.
Send a message via AIM to Blitzballer Send a message via MSN to Blitzballer Send a message via Yahoo to Blitzballer   Blitzballer is online now
View Blitzballers Profile! Find more posts by Blitzballer! Visit Blitzballers Homepage!  
  Elmdor
 
 
Elmdor's Avatar
I'll cut you.
 
Posts: 1,648
 
Reg: Aug 25 2002
 
ID: 1984
 
RP: 0
 
Suikoden II
Blue Oyster Cult
The Return of The King
The Goblet of Fire
PC
     
 
Default  09.10.02, 04:15:52
  Post #2 (permalink)
 
     

I strongly disagree. African Americans have no right to try to exploit their culture to try to gain money. Things like this happened in the past, and the innocent people today should NOT have to bear the burdon that their ansestors did. Slavery was wrong, but you can't expect a hard working buisness executive; who has nothing to do with slavery , aside from the fact their great grand father owned slaves, to pay LARGE sums of money for something they had ZERO control over.

It's a ridiculous concept. It's nothing more than the blunt explotation of the color of their skin. I have alot of Scotish blood in my viens, but does that give me the right to go to England and sue parliment for persecuteing my ancestors hundreds of years ago? Of corse it doesn't. It's a ridiculous and stupid concept.

It's almost racist that African Americans expect the decendants of slave owners to pay (and companies). Much like them, they had no choice who there parents were; and what the color of their skin was when born.

I believe an actual SLAVE has the right to -directly- sue the SLAVER who owned them. That is fair, but all slaves of that era are dead. The great-great son of a slave doesn't have the right to sue someone in their great-great grandfathers name for a PERSONAL finacial gain.

Explotation of the past, plain and simple.
______________________________________


Last edited by Elmdor : 09.10.02 at 04:18:04.
Send a message via AIM to Elmdor   Elmdor is offline
View Elmdors Profile! Find more posts by Elmdor!  
  Mecanon
 
 
Mecanon's Avatar
discorporate
 
Posts: 1,435
 
Reg: Aug 19 2002
 
ID: 1900
 
RP: 0
 
Natural Selection
Neil Young
The Big Lebowski
In Search Of The Far Side
PC
     
 
Default  09.10.02, 05:08:40
  Post #3 (permalink)
 
     

They are not slaves, the parties being sued are not slave owners, why is there even an argument? Waste of money and waste of time.
______________________________________

Send a message via AIM to Mecanon Send a message via Yahoo to Mecanon   Mecanon is offline
View Mecanons Profile! Find more posts by Mecanon! Visit Mecanons Homepage!  
  SS
 
 
SS's Avatar
Veteran
 
Posts: 3,131
 
Reg: Jul 28 2002
 
ID: 7616
 
RP: 0
 
None
None
None
None
None
     
 
Default  09.10.02, 13:25:56
  Post #4 (permalink)
 
     

LMFAO!!!!! that is what I don't understand, and I live in the Southern US so I see this all the time, I strongly disagree with it. Why? just as E_E and Mecanon have said, we have no control over what happened Generations ago. they seem to think they're making some kind of point, but they aren't because it's out of our hands.
  SS is offline
View SSs Profile! Find more posts by SS!  
  Josh The Psycho
 
Posts: n/a
 
ID:
 
RP:
     
 
Default  09.15.02, 05:15:28
  Post #5 (permalink)
 
     

How can blacks still complain about slavery?It's not like the black that are alive today were slaves..It's not like the whites alive today ever owned a slave..The blacks that still ***** about slavery are just racist..
 
 
  KensukiShooter
 
 
KensukiShooter's Avatar
Omnishot
 
Posts: 961
 
Reg: Jun 29 2002
 
ID: 1363
 
RP: 0
 
Too many
Crystal Method
Too Many
Too many
PS2
     
 
Default  09.15.02, 07:49:09
  Post #6 (permalink)
 
     

I guess its kind of hard for some of them to let it go but yes I think that it is stupid though. I say what happened, happened and imo it should be left alone. Slapping lawsuits on the decendants of slaveowners really stupid. Its all in the past and the age of slavery is over. Well for most of the world...in some areas it still goes on.
______________________________________

"Some things are never left finished...other times you just gotta finish them yourself"
Send a message via AIM to KensukiShooter   KensukiShooter is offline
View KensukiShooters Profile! Find more posts by KensukiShooter!  
  Attrox
 
Young & Hostile
 
Posts: 2,667
 
Reg: Jun 19 2002
 
ID: 1250
 
RP: 0
 
Final Fantasy X
Nas / Tupac
Cruel Intentions
Harry Potter
PlayStation 2
     
 
Default  09.15.02, 08:34:25
  Post #7 (permalink)
 
     

Quote:
Originally posted by Elvaan_Elmdor
African Americans have no right to try to exploit their culture to try to gain money.
They can do that? Can Mexican Americans do that too? Just kidding, I'm not into that.

But again, I agree with EE on pretty much everything he said. He saved me a lot of time, so if you want my opinion, just scroll up and read his post.
______________________________________

Final Fantasy District
Send a message via MSN to Attrox   Attrox is offline
View Attroxs Profile! Find more posts by Attrox! Visit Attroxs Homepage!  
  Kitsune
 
 
Kitsune's Avatar
Exiled
 
Posts: 554
 
Reg: Aug 18 2002
 
ID: 1899
 
RP: 0
 
Soulblazer
Talking Heads
CTHD
Orion
Xbox
     
 
Default  09.15.02, 15:03:06
  Post #8 (permalink)
 
     

Well, the most basic thing is, due to slavery, slaves had no money. When they were freed, they weren't given money. Its rather difficult to climb up when you start with nothing, as the african-american slaves in America did. This, I believe, is the (or would be, if this was sensible in the least) basis for the lawsuit, the fact that they start out worse that people that weren't freed slaves. But, considering there is no one alive now that WAS a slave, no one should really be able to take advantage of this. Also, there have been many generations, and anyone that really wanted to get out of the loop of poverty could have arisen out of it by now I'd think.

Now, the current problem at hand? Its just pathetic. You can't extract money from an orginization that still exists today for doing what was economically plausible in the past, when you aren't directly affected by it right now. If this gets by, I want to sue Quaker Oats for the quaker bastards that founded this country enriching it with puritan christian beliefs. The baliff would shoot me before I could finish that sentance because its just that proposterious, and I think this should be handled in a smimlar, less murderous manner.

Also, does anyone else notice this country cares too damn much about slavery? Any other country either lets it go or has Jyhads over things like this, all we do is hold a pissy neverending grudge. Theres almost no differance between pesantry and slavery, other than a more personal/individual violation of some rights/privacy, but you don't see people in asia and europe going nuts against their fellow coutrymen because someone 10 generations ago directly in some way served someone else.

Honestly, just let it go, and stop trying to lash out on a pointless moral crusade that is only making racial ties worse, sit your ass down, work for a living instead of trying to sue, and stop *****ing about someone that had a birthright better than yours; it isn't going to change jack.
______________________________________

  Kitsune is offline
View Kitsunes Profile! Find more posts by Kitsune!  
  blackmage
 
 
blackmage's Avatar
Original BM
 
Posts: 3,646
 
Reg: Jun 14 2002
 
ID: 1186
 
RP: 150
 
Fatal Frame, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil
Ayumi Hamasaki & Kumi Koda
Amelie, I'm a Cyborg, but that's OK, Battle Royale
Memoirs of a Geisha
Playstation 2
     
 
Default  09.16.02, 19:43:40
  Post #9 (permalink)
 
     

I'm sorry, but slavery happened like 200 years ago, they need to get over it, we live in a new world where that doesn't exsist here. It happened a long time ago, and not to them, they need to get their heads out of there butts and come back to 2002, for crying out loud!
______________________________________



  blackmage is offline
View blackmages Profile! Find more posts by blackmage!  
  Mecanon
 
 
Mecanon's Avatar
discorporate
 
Posts: 1,435
 
Reg: Aug 19 2002
 
ID: 1900
 
RP: 0
 
Natural Selection
Neil Young
The Big Lebowski
In Search Of The Far Side
PC
     
 
Default  09.16.02, 19:48:56
  </