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Default  70 Year Old Gives Birth to Twins
08.17.08, 21:29:53
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The world's oldest mum, who gave birth to twins at 70 after IVF, proudly showed off her son, then admitted: 'Now I've got another daughter to feed too.'

Omkari Panwar, and her husband Charan Singh Panwar, 77, underwent IVF all for the sake of producing a male heir to take over the family's smallholdings.

The elderly Indian couple, who already have two daughters in their thirties, and five grandchildren, are near destitute after mortgaging their land, selling their buffalo and taking out a loan for the £4,400 fertility treatment.

Now the pensioner parents will rely on family handouts and the charity of fellow villagers to bring up the little boy they so wanted, and the little girl they didn't.

But the Panwars, who live in a tiny community in Uttar Pradesh, North India, were delighted to finally see and hold their two babies, now weighing a healthy 4lbs, six weeks after they were born on June 27.

'We have not been able to see or hold them all this time," said frail Omkari. "They had to stay in the hospital because they were so small.

'We could not afford to stay there, so we had to leave them.' And she added: 'We paid all this money to the doctors for a son, but now we have the extra burden of another daughter as well.' Boys are cherished in India because daughters are not allowed to inherit property but leave to marry and become part of their new husband's family.

The twins were born at 34 weeks by emergency caesarian section at a hospital in the nearest town of Muzaffarnagar.

They weighed just 2lbs each and had to be rushed to the Jaswant Roy Speciality Hospital which has a neonatal intensive care unit.

Omkari, who saw her babies just once, a week after their birth, said: 'I could only just touch them lightly with my fingers.

'They were so tiny, they would have fit into the palm of my hand.' The Panwars had to scrape together a further £500 to pay for part of their children's medical care and are now almost penniless.

Their little boy is now likely to take over a tiny piece of land with a large mortgage still to pay on it.

But Charan insists the cost was worthwhile, after he became a laughing stock in his village because he had no son to carry on the family name.

'I've finally got what I wanted and I can die a happy man now,' said Charan.

'My wife will look after the babies when I am gone, and after she dies my other daughters will care for them.

'It will be an honour for them to raise their new brother.

'Now my daughters will have a family home to return to on religious days and special occasions.' It is tradition for sons to remain in the parental home with their wives. On festival days the daughters of the family come to visit with their own husbands and children.

Villagers welcomed the jubilant pair back to the village, which lies 20km from Muzaffarnagar, with numerous gifts for the new babies.

The twins will be named at a special Hindu ceremony next week when the whole community will celebrate their arrival into the world.

'It is customary to name the babies after two weeks," said Omkari, who does not have a birth certificate, but insists she is 70-years-old.

'We have not seen the babies all this time, so we haven't been able to hold the naming ceremony.

'Now, we can arrange one, but cannot reveal their names until that day.' Omkari suffered a personal heartbreak more than 40 years ago as a much younger woman, when she miscarried a baby boy.

'For more than 40 years I have thought God did not think I was fit to produce a boy,' she said. 'But fate works in funny ways. It must have been meant to be that I waited all this time.' The couple do not even understand the fertility procedures carried out to allow Omkari to give birth so long after going through the menopause.

It is likely donor eggs were used to allow her to carry a child, but the Panwars simply do not know what happened when they went to a fertility clinic in Meerut last year.

Omkari, who remembers being nine when India gained independence in 1947, said: 'We saw a doctor at the Baby Shastri Nursing Home and I was given treatment.

'Later we were told I was carrying twins, a boy and a girl.' Screening embryos to discover the sex of the baby is illegal in India, following the outlawing of female foeticide - the aborting of girls - more than 10 years ago.

The couple do not even know such medical techniques exist and they do not think anything was specifically done to ensure they would have a boy.

'We just count ourselves blessed that we have a boy. We prayed for it to happen,' said Charan.

'We don't know how. We're just glad the doctor was right, and we do have a son.' The world's previous oldest mothers were Romanian Adriana Iliescu, who gave birth to a daughter, aged 66 and 320 days in May 2005, and Spanish woman Carmela Bousada, who was 66 and 358 days old when her twins were born in December 2006.

Omkari does not care that she has broken the world record and said: 'If I am the world's oldest mother it means nothing to me.

'I just want to be with my new babies and care for them while I am still able.'

World's oldest mother, 70, is pleased at male heir but declares daughter 'a burden' | Mail Online
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Pictures at the link too.

What do you make of this story? Is it right to have children at this age? Are the medical profession also wrong for allowing the couple to do this at such an age too?

There is also the whole concept that the mother seems to have...Great a boy, but the girl is another mouth to feed...
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Default  08.17.08, 22:27:03
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I think it's bad, I don't think it's good to have kids at that age because the risk of different conditions and such, but the kids I take it turned out healthy, so that's not the main thing that bothers me about it...the main thing is that they know before having them that they are poor and may not be able to support kids even if it were just a boy that bothers me, so now they are stuck with two kids when they couldn't even support one kid. I feel sorry for the daughter too because obviously they don't want her, I couldn't imagine what that would be like.
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Default  08.18.08, 02:41:46
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Wow, that's ridiculous. I didn't think women could have children at that age, that's got to shatter the world record for oldest birth.

My only problem with it is the fact that, at their age, they could pass at any given time. I'd feel terrible for the children to have to grow up with their parents.

Beyond that, congratulations to 'em.
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Default  08.18.08, 16:13:01
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No kidding!!!!
but really its not good to have kids in old age cuz in both hand mother and kids get bothered
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Default  08.18.08, 17:13:46
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Poor kids... big chance they'll have lost their mother before they turn 20 because she's so old.
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Default  08.19.08, 21:53:50
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i do not like this one bit. a woman's body goes through menopause for a good reason, it's not fit to bear children anymore! yeesh! i think it was poor judgement on the doctor's part, just because they are paying patients. they had no idea that it was scientifically rigged up so that they could have their baby boy. i completely understand it's a religious and cultural thing to them, i just think the whole situation is quite sad.
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From my view point, I think that attitude is complete and utter hogwash... but this is from being raised US lower class / poverty level. (I'm voicing my opinions about on how the girl is going to be a burden while the son, who may not survive or there is no guarantee on that no matter where you are to adult hood.)

However, I do have a unique experience dealing with people from India. Ironically, I did tech support for a flash memory company to customers in (you guessed it) India. There were only three of us on this team and we were also the back for the Australia lines too (I was told that I have a 'cute little American accent' that made me smile)...

The three of us on the India support team was two guys and me as the L2... Oh man did I get some major slack from these guys who called and said flat out "I don't want to speak to a woman. I want to talk to a man." That always pissed me off.

That happened so many times that I ended up blurting out one time "I'm sorry, there are only boys here, so how may assist you?" (In that case, this caller shut up and we fixed the issue) I'm so glad that call did not get pulled for quality assurance testing.

I also learned that in the upper cast in India (it's a cast society, the last I checked) the woman would manage the household affairs (which meant they would call at times) while the men would earn their livelyhood. Oh those calls were nice to get and the caller seemed to be pleased to be talking to me too.
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Default  08.21.08, 04:54:21
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frankly we don't have the right to say otherwise. it's their society and we can't say "omg that's wrong" just because we aren't used to it.

based on a pure medical standpoint it's reckless at best, but it's their decision and the right to make our own bad decisions is what OUR culture is supposed to be based on. (well for the americans here the rest of your cultures are far older, i dunno what they are BASED on)
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